Dr. Kenwal Bawa on Overcoming Most cancers, Sexual Well being and Biohacking


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Howdy, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie, from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the top. And this podcast is all about a tremendous story of overcoming most cancers and likewise about sexual well being and biohacking. I’m right here with Dr. Cabell Bawa, who’s a Board Licensed doctor and founding father of Bawa Medical and Chief Medical Officer on the New Wave. She is dedicated to her philosophy of rejuvenation from the within out. And on this episode, she shares her story of overcoming breast most cancers and likewise turning into a magnificence queen. And the explanation that she really did that and the way she used that platform to point out her scars and to point out her hair loss and all of the issues that got here alongside together with her most cancers prognosis and to convey consciousness. She additionally talks rather a lot about some taboo subjects. we discuss sexual well being fairly a bit and a few actually shocking statistics on well being and hormones associated to each women and men, and the way these change over time and with age, and likewise methods to assist enhance them. So, positively, a fact-packed episode, her story is absolutely unimaginable. And with out additional ado, let’s be part of her.

Katie: Dr. Bawa, welcome, and thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks for having me.

Katie: I’m so excited to listen to extra about your story and your experience as a result of it looks as if you could have each private {and professional} expertise in a few areas which might be extraordinarily relevant to lots of people proper now. However to start out broad, I’ve learn that you’ve a very, actually fascinating and superb story about overcoming most cancers, which as we all know, statistically is on the rise proper now and, sadly, many individuals will obtain a prognosis of in some unspecified time in the future of their lives. After which not solely overcoming that, however turning that into one thing actually lovely and empowering and superb. So can we begin by studying a little bit extra about you and your story?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Thanks a lot for that. I used to be misdiagnosed with my breast most cancers for nearly three years. I initially found my lump once I was nonetheless in my late 30s and my gynecologist tried to blow me off and inform me that I actually didn’t meet conventional danger elements, that I used to be nonetheless not 40, insurance coverage wouldn’t cowl it. And I used to be a little bit perplexed as a result of I believed it was in regards to the affected person, not the, you understand, the numbers. So it took lots of convincing. I did get a mammogram, however then they misinterpret it. They bought an ultrasound, however they misinterpret that too. And this occurred for a number of years in a row. So lastly, I insisted that there was one thing very fallacious. They thought I used to be neurotic, and it was okay. I didn’t actually care at that time. I knew one thing was fallacious and I needed to be an advocate for myself.

So at that time, I ended up going to a distinct hospital. I ended up going to the College of Miami Sylvester Most cancers Institute, and I can truthfully say that the docs there saved my life. So if we get nothing else from our time collectively, I need girls and even males to know that once they really feel that there’s one thing fallacious with them, that they need to insist and to not take it mendacity down, to not let anyone inform them that they’re being loopy, that they’re being hypochondriacs. When you understand you now. And nevertheless, you understand, this occurred to me and whereas this was not one thing that I anticipated, I had a alternative. I might let most cancers defeat me or I might make it about one thing greater than myself. So, I, of all issues, determined to hitch a magnificence pageant. Now it’s possible you’ll marvel why at age 43, I felt the necessity to be part of a magnificence pageant. It’s as a result of I discovered as a most cancers affected person that my fellow most cancers sufferers had given up on themselves. They felt that most cancers was going to defeat them. And I truthfully imagine that in case you suppose it should defeat you, it completely will. You might be proper in some way.

So for me, I used to be by no means going to undergo most cancers. It needed to be about making one thing good come out of one thing horrible. And so, I made a decision to hitch Miss Florida to encourage most cancers sufferers to reside their finest life despite most cancers. To indicate them that pleasure mustn’t finish, and that they’re no much less lovely, even when they’ve scars, even when they lose their hair. So, I went on stage 4 weeks or so after my mastectomy. I had my scar seen, I refused to cowl it with make-up. It could have been simple to take action, nevertheless it was a matter of precept. I additionally went on stage with no extensions and no wig. I purchased a wig, I simply couldn’t convey myself to put on it as a result of I needed to talk my fact. And once I received Miss Florida, it was an enormous win, not only for me, however for most cancers sufferers and people present process adversity of any variety. So, in so some ways, you understand, my story has been discovered to be inspirational for that, and I’m very completely happy as a result of that’s what that is about.

Katie: That’s superb. And two issues actually stood out to me in that. The primary being the significance of advocating for ourselves on the subject of medical care. And I had an analogous expertise in a a lot much less ominous prognosis, however I, for years, knew one thing was fallacious and would go to docs and ask for assessments. And I suspected it was my thyroid. And equally was instructed, “Effectively, you’re not in a high-risk group. All of this stuff are regular postpartum. Your ranges are positive.” They usually have been solely testing, in fact, sure ranges. And I needed to advocate for myself for a few years with a number of docs to lastly get a prognosis that then helped me recuperate. And also you hear about this rather a lot within the medical world. And sadly, it looks as if it typically occurs extra to girls than males actually because I feel many research are accomplished on males as a result of they’re simpler to review.

However I feel…I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I feel the perfect outcomes, and also you may agree from a health care provider’s perspective, occur when you could have a affected person who’s invested and well-informed and advocating for themselves, and likewise desirous to work with a practitioner as a companion in bettering their very own well being. And the opposite factor you stated that I feel is so essential on this and in truthfully, each space of life is that mindset piece. And the concept in case you suppose one thing will defeat you, it should. And likewise in case you have a constructive mindset, that goes such a great distance towards the restoration. How essential do you suppose that mindset piece was for you and for different folks in the identical scenario?

Dr. Bawa: I really like what you stated as a result of so many docs aren’t testing you absolutely, even when they do take a look at you. And I’m so completely happy that you just have been an advocate for your self and also you discovered what was fallacious. And so far as mindset is worried, mindset in my case was every little thing. And this will likely appear dramatic, however this can be a true incident. I had some issues throughout my most cancers therapy and I used to be in my chemotherapy suite. My blood ranges have been tanking for lack of a greater phrase to say it. And certainly one of my nurses began to cry. She simply felt horrible for me that I used to be taking two steps ahead and 5 steps again it appeared each time we rotated. And once I noticed tears in her eyes, I consoled her and I stated to her, “It’s okay. It really is. I will probably be positive. And never solely am I going to be positive, in just some months, I’m going to be Miss Florida.” And he or she laughed as she cried. And that is an honest-to-goodness story. This actually occurred.

And I needed to clarify to her that I used to be not going there for a participation medal, I used to be in it to win it as a result of it was not price doing if it was not price doing absolutely and properly. So, I hope that my story has despatched a bigger message to folks on the whole about mindset, about perseverance. And I feel that if I didn’t have that mindset, if I didn’t have that perseverance, I don’t know that I might have made it so far as I did and had the result I did as a result of a lot of most cancers is miserable. I’m not saying that there wasn’t any despair on my finish, there was. I selected to not dwell on it. So I feel that’s the primary factor.

Katie: And I additionally love that you just reframed that and didn’t disguise from the struggles or attempt to cowl the scars of that and let that truly be an outward, like, witness to your struggles in order that it might open a dialog about that. I feel typically in society, there are such…very outlined requirements of what female magnificence appears like and that strain to really feel good and to not have scars and to not have something that’s not thought of, you understand, bodily good. And doubtless by doing that, you gave girls freedom to be who they really are in so some ways, and to not have to take care of this phantasm of perfection. And from what I’ve learn, additionally that was a big a part of your cause for competing as properly is that you just have been in a position to shine a highlight on different most cancers sufferers and on that as properly, proper? You used your platform to convey lots of consciousness there as properly.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. I spoke on stage about how I used to be misdiagnosed. I needed to boost consciousness for most cancers misdiagnosis, in addition to inform most cancers sufferers that life doesn’t finish with a most cancers prognosis, that there’s a lot stuff to look ahead to. Now, happening stage and the costume I selected and with the hair and make-up I selected was an announcement. I didn’t select a costume that coated my chest. I might have. There are various robes I might have worn which might be completely lovely that didn’t present my scars, that didn’t present my uneven breast dimension. However I went on stage as is. I used to be fully uneven. Issues had not been finalized but with my second surgical procedure. I nonetheless haven’t had it, however I didn’t let that govern my alternative of costume. This was about, once more, one thing greater than myself. So, I went there with my uneven cleavage, my scar seen, and brief hair with some areas that have been extra thinning than others. And this was essential to me as a result of I don’t need folks to suppose that most cancers isn’t lovely. Most cancers is simply as lovely as the rest. And I feel that that was a vital message to ship to the world. And I feel it’s a message that resonated. My win redefined magnificence after most cancers.

Katie: And I can solely think about how at first overwhelming a most cancers prognosis should really feel. And I hear from folks, sadly, like I stated, most cancers appears to be on the rise throughout the board, who obtain a prognosis and, you understand, overwhelmed and marvel the place to even begin in search of assets. So I’m curious if there have been issues that have been useful to you in establishing that mindset piece once you have been going by means of that and/or that helped you understand issues to do to bodily help your self by means of that course of and to verify your physique was nourished and in a position to recuperate?

Dr. Bawa: You understand, it’s fascinating how life labored out for me. I used to be not likely…as a part of my medical apply, I based and owned Bawa Medical in Boca Raton. It’s a wellness and rejuvenation-based apply. Once I began this, once I conceived this apply, I used to be not considering of most cancers. I used to be not considering of what a most cancers affected person wants for help but mockingly, my life took that path. So, in my case, I used to be very fortunate. I didn’t must go outdoors to look for lots of the issues I wanted. I might do IV remedy in my very own workplace as a result of I discovered it useful. Additionally, chemotherapy is so nauseating, you’ll be able to’t eat properly, your dietary stage goes down at a degree once you want the next dietary stage to battle that illness, to battle that chemo as a result of chemo is doing fairly a quantity on you, it’s a poison, primarily. You want it. I extremely suggest it. It saved my life, nevertheless it’s a poison. Let’s not overlook that. So, how do you counteract that? I had IV remedy.

The opposite factor that occurs with most cancers is hair loss. I’m a hair restoration specialist. So I used to be very fortunate in that sense that I used to be in a position to do hair restoration inside my apply as a result of I really feel that most cancers hair loss is misunderstood. A lot of it’s about hair restoration the place in so many instances, it must be about hair loss prevention. No person thinks of it that approach, even my very own pals stated I used to be being ridiculous that I ought to settle for it gracefully. They instructed me I used to be being, you understand, very superficial. And I stated, “It’s not about being superficial. It’s about combating it when you’ll be able to battle it.” When I’ve instruments, why not use them? So I did a bunch of various issues in my apply and I by no means went bald regardless of very robust chemotherapy. The chemotherapy I underwent was a mix of Taxol and Adriamycin and Cytoxan. To anyone who does most cancers remedies or has gone by means of most cancers remedies, they understand how robust that chemotherapy routine is but I by no means got here near being bald. I misplaced the size, by no means the precise hair, you understand, on my head. So did that.

I additionally did pores and skin remedies at my very own apply as a result of chemotherapy causes lots of pores and skin injury and hyperpigmentation. So irrespective of how a lot sunscreen I used, I nonetheless had lots of pores and skin injury. So, lots of that I discovered I used to be uniquely positioned to assist myself. So this isn’t a plug for my apply in any approach. You requested how I bought by means of it, a lot of it’s due to what I do for a residing anyway. Now, how different folks would get by means of it, I extremely suggest that they attain out to their oncologist, ask for the assets close to them. Perhaps there’s a apply like me close to them. Perhaps there’s any individual who may also help them save their hair. Perhaps there’s somebody who may also help them with wellness and IVs and, you understand, serving to them with chemo-related pores and skin modifications and issues like that. As a result of, you understand, it’s very miserable once you look within the mirror and also you don’t seem like your self anymore. It’s not about being superficial, you virtually don’t acknowledge who you’re. And there’s one thing to be stated for attempting to take care of what you’ll be able to of your self by means of all of it.

I imply, there was a degree I had no eyebrows and no eyelashes. So I made a decision it was about mindset. I didn’t wish to settle for that. So, I really went out and developed a product to develop lashes and brows that’s wholesome, that doesn’t change your eye colour and do injury to the pores and skin round your eyes. As a result of a lot of what’s on the market also can do injury. Individuals don’t discuss it. Like Latisse, does it work? Completely. However it will possibly trigger some modifications within the colour of your eye, for example. No person talks about that a part of it. So I made a decision that most cancers was going to be one thing that simply was constructive in each approach for me. So I even went and developed a pure product that I now have in my apply for that. So, a lot of that, you understand, I used to be so fortunate, however I do suggest that they attain out to social staff, they attain out to help teams, and in my case, to pals. My household doesn’t reside right here. My household’s abroad. So my pals have been my tribe. They have been those who helped me by means of all of it. My good friend, Carmen, picked me up from chemo each single time. She simply took it upon herself. You understand, it takes a village. I used to be very fortunate to have a really supportive village.

Katie: That’s lovely. And I feel that additionally illustrates what appears to be a false dichotomy that typically occurs on the subject of most cancers therapy or any type of medical therapy. It looks as if typically there’s a stress between the standard mannequin and the issues you want to do medically and the wellness aspect. And it looks as if the perfect outcomes really occur when somebody is ready to entry all of these issues, that it isn’t an both/or, however very a lot a each/and. And that you are able to do issues which might be supportive of your physique and likewise supportive of hopefully, the method of therapy and serving to your physique recuperate extra rapidly. However that’s a very unimaginable story that hopefully offers hope to anybody else who may, sadly, be in the identical scenario. And also you talked about your apply, I’d like to delve into a few completely different areas right here as a result of I do know you’re employed with folks in quite a lot of alternative ways.

However one other space I hear rather a lot from girls about proper now and I’m wondering if COVID may be a contributing issue right here, however is sexual wellness. And it looks as if there is a rise in sexual-related issues or simply libido and sexual satisfaction, particularly in girls. I don’t know if that is present or in case you’ve perhaps seen this for a very long time. So I’m curious in case you’re comfy sharing, in case you had any of these struggles once you went by means of your chemo journey, but in addition the ways in which you assist handle that in your sufferers.

Dr. Bawa: Sure. Now, vaginal well being is one thing I’m very enthusiastic about. I do lots of intimate wellness for each women and men at my apply, and chemo and most cancers remedies, most cancers medicines, even after chemo may cause lots of modifications in a girl’s hormonal stability. It threw me into menopause. So, you understand, there’s rather a lot that goes fallacious with most cancers and with getting older, on the whole. In my case, it was simply amplified due to the most cancers. However vaginal well being is one thing that may be very ignored. Ladies take higher care of their vehicles than they do their vaginas, sadly. And I’m right here once more as an advocate for good vaginal well being. And like I stated about hair loss on the subject of most cancers, why are we reacting? Why are we not stopping? I’m all about prevention as a substitute of therapy. So, I encourage girls to return get vaginal rejuvenation at a youthful age. So lots of my sufferers say, “Effectively, I’m not that unhealthy but.” And I’m telling you, it makes my head spin as a result of I wish to clarify to girls around the globe that they should deal with themselves sooner.

For those who handle the issue earlier, youthful, you could have higher outcomes long-term. Your vagina will age in another way. It’s not simply your face that’s getting older, it’s your vagina as properly. So I’m very large in my apply on FemiWave. It’s acoustic wave remedy, actually utilizing sound waves to convey higher blood circulation into your vaginal space, on the whole, not simply your clitoris, your labia, your pelvic ground, all of it wants good blood circulation. So this breaks down blockages and blood vessels like plaques. You understand, it’s not simply your coronary heart and the arteries in your coronary heart which have blockages as you grow old, blood vessels in every single place develop blockages. So that is to advertise good, wholesome blood circulation. And that makes your pelvic ground stronger, which is one other factor that goes with age and childbirth and every little thing else. I’m not saying that we’re curing incontinence, we’re actually making an enormous stride in the direction of minimizing it with this.

So I like to recommend it to girls of all ages. It additionally makes girls extraordinarily orgasmic, which is only a fantastic plus level with it. So, we do O-Photographs at our apply, however we additionally do FemiWave due to the fantastic, fantastic results we now have with it. And there’s little question, and that’s the fantastic thing about it. We do vaginal laser rejuvenation as properly at my apply with CO2. Now I’m not by any means saying something damaging about CO2, there’s a time and place for it. However I discover that FemiWave is one thing that helps girls throughout the board. I truthfully have an issue attempting to even inform you as a girl it won’t work. And you understand what? Usually the query is, “Who will it assist?” I feel the query with FemiWave is completely different, “Who will it not assist?” And I truthfully can’t consider anybody it wouldn’t assist in some form or type. In order that’s one thing that I’m very completely happy to be doing. And we are actually a middle of excellence with each FemiWave for ladies and GAINSWave for males. And I really feel that we’re doing a lot good to society, on the whole, by serving to folks this fashion.

Katie: So that you talked about that like that getting older course of occurs there as properly, particularly simply as part of regular getting older. And I do know girls report extra pelvic ground points, particularly after childbirth, which makes full sense as a result of there’s some intense trauma that may occur throughout childbirth for lots of girls. And I assume that this additionally impacts the sexual expertise fairly a bit and sexual well being that approach. Are there different elements, like for example, you talked about that that type of pulled you into menopause? I do know menopause typically impacts sexual well being for ladies. Are this stuff that you just do in your workplace in a position to assist type of handle the, like, sexual satisfaction aspect of that even after menopause for ladies?

Dr. Bawa: Sure. What I do may be very complete. I really feel the completely different components of what I do are very synergistic with one another. As an illustration, I don’t simply do hormone substitute, I wish to name it hormone balancing as a result of there’s an imbalance in lots of elements of our life as we age, as we battle completely different ailments. In my case, it was most cancers, however in your case it’s thyroid illness. It’s no much less traumatic to your system. So I attempt to optimize well being. I attempt to optimize wellness, on the whole. So I wish to take my sufferers and see them as the larger image, not only one a part of what I’m doing. So I might optimize your hormones. I might optimize your vitamin and your metabolic scenario with IV remedy. I might do, you understand, GAINSWave in case you’re a person, I do FemiWave in case you’re a girl. These are issues that assist everybody. I can’t think about providing you with a subset that it will not assist. In some form or type, it should assist everybody. After which I fine-tune it additional. Does any individual want, you understand, for example, a vaginal laser? We will at all times do this. Do the lads want some type of treatment? We will do this. So I feel that this needs to be seen as an even bigger image and never bits and items.

Katie: I agree. It looks as if the perfect outcomes in any realm occur once you handle the physique as a complete and work and help its pure processes versus countering them. In that realm, are there issues that you just discovered useful personally or that you just suggest to your sufferers that they’ll do at dwelling which might be supportive, whether or not it’s sure dietary practices? I do know prefer it looks as if sleep and hydration are throughout the board at all times good suggestions. I’m but to have anybody in 500 friends on this podcast say sleep isn’t essential and hydration doesn’t matter, however are there belongings you encourage your sufferers to do to assist enhance the results of those remedies and likewise that have been useful to you once you have been going by means of your journey?

Dr. Bawa: In fact, mindset was the primary factor for me. I felt that something I might do to calm my thoughts was useful. I feel meditation is underrated. I don’t suppose that it’s a must to sit for an hour and, you understand, stare on the area to meditate. I feel meditation may be various things to completely different folks. The thought is to calm your thoughts. If that’s by taking a stroll, if that’s by listening to a bit of music you discover soothing. It doesn’t matter what it’s, I feel you want to calm your thoughts and discover stability inside your self above all. After which I feel that hydration is a superb factor. As you talked about, hydration is a fundamental factor. If you’re not hydrated, then nothing works properly. Your pores and skin, your well being, on the whole, nothing works properly with out hydration. Nutritionally, I’m not telling you it’s a must to eat natural, it’s not at all times possible, however no matter you’re consuming, I do suggest attempting your finest to have a extra inclusive weight-reduction plan, extra fruit and veggies, not taking any group out of your weight-reduction plan.

As an illustration, chemo can result in lots of weight achieve. It’s a fallacy when folks suppose that every one most cancers sufferers drop pounds. Some achieve. I did. So I feel the concept is to not say that, “Oh, let me do keto. I’ll drop pounds,” or let me do that or that, I’ll drop pounds. I feel a balanced, nutritious diet with wise parts is essential. It’s a boring factor to say, I do know. There’s nothing dramatic about what I’m saying, however that’s essential. Steadiness is essential in each side. After which, in fact, I feel when you’ll find a health care provider close to you who may also help you with the issues that helped me. I used to be fortunate, I occurred to be doing this anyway. All I needed to do was come to work and, you understand, all of this was accessible to me, however search out practitioners who imagine in a holistic lifestyle, who’ve of their apply one thing that may enable you to. Now, sexually, for example, we’ve talked about FemiWave. If you’re someplace the place you don’t have a FemiWave supplier, we actually have a system. In the event that they contact us, we will at all times ship it to them. It’s an at-home intimate wellness system that makes use of the identical idea of sound wave know-how and makes use of sound waves to interrupt up blockages and convey good blood circulation into the vaginal space. It’s not as robust as what we do within the workplace, nevertheless it’s an exquisite adjunct for every other therapy or the rest you’re doing in your life. For those who can’t get to us personally, at the very least use this at dwelling. It is extremely useful.

Katie: And I’m curious in case you can communicate to perhaps in simply generalities or perhaps particular instances with out utilizing figuring out particulars, however what sort of causes folks typically want these sorts of remedies? Like, I feel most individuals perhaps don’t notice that you just see these type of blockages in all tissue, not simply in your coronary heart, like folks perceive in that stage. However it will appear to be rising blood circulation could be a fairly dramatic shift. What sort of outcomes do folks sometimes see?

Dr. Bawa: Oh my goodness, I’ve a YouTube channel, Bawa Medical, and one of many movies I posted nearly per week in the past is a couple of gentleman who is sort of 69. His girlfriend is 4 months older than him and so they’re having the perfect intercourse of their lives. They’ve each had remedies from us. The gents had GAINSWave and he says that, you understand, they’re having intercourse at the very least as soon as a day, if not twice a day. And typically they’ve nooners. That to me is inspirational for anyone half his age, not to mention any individual who’s virtually 70 years outdated. So are we seeing outcomes? We’re completely seeing outcomes. We’re altering lives. What we do is transformational. At my apply, I’m giving them a brand new lease on life. It doesn’t matter what age you’re. If in case you have an issue, there’s no level in denying it, settle for it, discover assist, and reside your finest life. Have you learnt that 20% of males of their 20s endure from erectile dysfunction? No person thinks that the 20s might convey dysfunction, nevertheless it’s completely true. It’s a identified reality inside the scientific neighborhood that 20% of males of their 20s have it, 30% of their 30s, 40% of their 40s. It simply goes up about 10% per decade of life.

Now, such as you stated, we don’t at all times have these research in girls. There’s a glass ceiling for ladies and never simply within the workforce, sadly. We are sometimes blown off, we’re known as histrionic, hysterical, you understand, hysteria, the idea of hysteria, you understand, once you look again at how the time period started, it’s very denigrating to girls. So I’m not right here to say that…you understand, I’m not right here for a girls’s lib dialogue, I’m simply right here to say that girls, we don’t at all times have the research for us, we don’t at all times have the statistics for us, however now we now have choices and we should always go make the most of them. Do that for yourselves. Get some assist. There’s assist on the market.

Katie: And I do know that it’s been a comparatively dramatic shift, these decline in hormone ranges and the rise in ED, even in younger males. And I do know we see low testosterone, even in younger males. I’ve even seen some statistics that males typically may have a 3rd of the testosterone their grandfathers did on the similar age. And to me, that speaks to the truth that we all know that we’ve had large environmental modifications which might be resulting in a few of these issues. Our meals provide has modified. So now it turns into essential to be extra proactive. When we now have extra damaging inputs that we now have to cope with, we now have to turn out to be extra proactive in counteracting these issues. And to circle again to what you stated too about weight-reduction plan as properly, and consuming a balanced, nutritious diet and never coming from a spot of deprivation, I feel that’s one thing that uniquely impacts girls extra as properly due to weight-reduction plan tradition and due to a few of these issues we talked about early on.

And it looks as if many ladies wrestle with the mindset of with the ability to nourish their our bodies sufficient and with the ability to eat sufficient various meals to essentially really help our physique. So I really like that you just introduced that up as a result of that’s one thing I’ve stated on right here earlier than is we now have to shift that mindset once more, with mindset being so essential away from like meals is unhealthy. There’s guilt hooked up to meals. I must weight-reduction plan and be thinner, to I really like and settle for my physique, how can I nourish it to the easiest way doable? How do I help it? How do I help its pure processes of detoxing, of anti-aging? Our our bodies are so unimaginable in what they’ll do, they simply want a little bit bit extra help in right this moment’s world as a result of they’re dealing with greater than they’ve prior to now.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now, I hope I can contact on…you stated so many fantastic issues. I want I used to be writing as a result of… And I’m going to return as soon as we file this and truly discuss this by myself social media platforms as a result of what you stated is profound. Now you introduced up dropping testosterone ranges. Have you learnt that sleep deprivation in males is inflicting decrease fertility, decrease testosterone ranges? Once more, that’s one thing folks don’t discuss. It’s not a horny matter, nevertheless it’s true. Sleep deprivation is inflicting that. Now you stated earlier about…you stated one thing easy, you stated, I do know that sleep and hydration are quite simple. Sure, they’re easy, however they’re so profound. For those who don’t get sufficient sleep, you could have decrease fertility. So when you could have decrease fertility, that impacts so many various elements of your life, and that’s only one instance of what sleep deprivation does.

So then you definitely talked about, you understand, different modifications which might be occurring, different issues which might be occurring with tradition, the place we’re made to really feel lower than. Now, I used to be a dimension 0-2 once I was identified with most cancers, I’m in all probability a dimension 6 proper now. And I’m not being exhausting on myself. I’m not depriving myself. Don’t get me fallacious, I’m not consuming your entire bread basket. But when I desire a slice of bread, I’m consuming it. I’m not consuming a ton of alcohol, but when I’d like a glass of wine, I’m permitting myself a glass of wine sometimes. I feel we have to be kinder to ourselves as girls and as males. I feel society may be very powerful on us. I feel there’s this entire idea of superficial magnificence. And that’s why I went to Miss Florida as a result of I used to be combating that idea of conventional magnificence. I went at my heaviest. I went once I was nonetheless swollen from my mastectomy. I used to be nonetheless, you understand, coping with fluid retention. I feel the idea of magnificence must be modified. Magnificence must be present in no matter stage you’re in. And it’s not about others making you’re feeling lovely, that feeling wants to return from inside.

I perceive that society must be kinder to folks going by means of struggles. I get that. And that’s a given. However that energy wants to return from inside us. If you look in that mirror, you want to see somebody lovely, somebody robust, somebody who has persevered. We’ve got all gone by means of struggles in life. We’re all winners in our personal approach. I could have gone to medical college. I could put on an extended white coat. My successes are completely different than your successes. We’re the one ones who know what a hero we’re and we have to really feel that. That’s what I wish to do, encourage folks to feeling and being their finest. It wants to return from inside really.

Katie: Yeah, I agree. That was an essential mindset shift for me as a result of such as you, I struggled with the bodily modifications of thyroid illness and simply of getting six infants in 9 years. It was rather a lot for my physique to course of. And the mindset piece, I’ve talked about this a little bit bit earlier than on this podcast, however issues didn’t actually begin shifting bodily till I addressed that mindset piece. And once I might have a look at the mirror and discover love and acceptance for myself, it turned a lot simpler to function from a spot of nourishing my physique as a substitute of combating it and loving it as a substitute of depriving it. And that made the entire distinction. I feel you’re proper, that like that magnificence has to return and that appreciation and that love and acceptance and pleasure has to return from inside. And as girls, that additionally offers us the flexibility to be that for different folks as properly. However it will possibly’t come from a spot of not having it for us to start with. And a few extra notes I had on my present notes I wanna be sure we contact on, I’ve learn and heard about girls affected by one thing known as anorgasmia, which appears to be on the rise as properly. Are you able to clarify why that’s occurring? And whether it is on the rise, why you suppose it may be on the rise proper now, after which how girls can handle that?

Dr. Bawa: There are various the explanation why girls are having issues orgasming. For one, I don’t know that many people notice that solely 18% of girls can orgasm from vaginal intercourse, from the penetration itself. So there are various things at play right here. One, we have to make our companions conscious that oral stimulation or exterior stimulation is extra essential. We have to have higher vaginal well being, on the whole. Like I stated, we have to convey higher blood circulation into the world to get up our nerves, to get up our blood vessels. I feel individuals who have anorgasmia or who’ve painful intercourse…these are two completely different points. Some persons are having painful intercourse. Some persons are not having painful intercourse, however they’re getting nowhere when they’re having intercourse. There are various components to this. So I feel wellness as a complete is gonna contribute to it after which training that there’s a downside. It’s okay to have that downside. And it’s okay to talk about that downside. If you handle it along with your physician and also you inform your physician, “Pay attention, I’ve no sensation. I’m not getting there,” then I feel there are a couple of essential components to this.

It’s worthwhile to communicate to a therapist. There are therapists who specialise in sexual remedy and sexual wellness, and so they may also help you with this. In the case of the physique itself, there are docs like me who do FemiWave, who do hormone balancing, who will enable you to with the O-Shot and make you extra orgasmic. So there are completely different instruments that you want to assist your self with. Once more, it’s not only one factor, I want there was only one factor, however there are a bunch of issues you are able to do to assist your self. They usually all contribute. I feel all of them work collectively higher synergistically and any certainly one of them by themselves. So I feel there’s rather a lot on the market. We simply must get that assist.

Katie: And I feel having the dialog, I do know like all sexual well being matter is a little bit bit taboo and, like, I feel it raises eyebrows each time I discuss it on right here, however I feel the dialog can be crucial as a result of we all know that that’s tied into general well being. And to your level, I feel this can be a matter that’s not talked about sufficient, particularly for ladies. We actually see all of the commercials for all of these points for males. And it looks as if when males have a wrestle with that, it turns into a vital, imminent factor to repair. However girls, I really feel like typically are extra hesitant to speak about it or really feel like one thing’s fallacious with them and really feel disgrace round it. And to your level, I didn’t notice it was that drastic of a statistic, however for a lot of girls, simply penetrative intercourse typically isn’t sufficient, however that’s one thing that they really feel unhealthy speaking about or they really feel like they’re not regular due to that. And so I feel opening the dialog and letting them notice that there are alternatives and issues that may assist a lot, however even simply beginning that dialog and taking that disgrace and that societal notion away from it’s such an essential first step for ladies. And I’m so glad we’re in a time when there are issues like this accessible and we’re beginning to lastly have this dialog.

Dr. Bawa: Completely. Now I get in hassle typically on my social media although. I’ve very dignified posts. I’m not displaying something that’s specific. I imply, my posts aren’t pornographic, however even Instagram and Fb will typically take my posts off as a result of I discussed intercourse or one thing sexual. Now, I’m a medical physician, I’m not doing something inappropriate, however there’s disgrace even to that extent. Now let me inform you one thing completely unbelievable. I made a decision to take my kids on a trip and shut the workplace for per week and my assistant went on a trip together with her household. We imagine in having a life at Bawa Medical, we’re allowed to go on trip. We closed down our workplace and we bought an answering service to reply our calls in order that sufferers might at the very least make and alter appointments whereas we have been gone for simply 5 enterprise days.

Have you learnt that I bought a name as soon as I used to be already in one other city from my answering service and so they stated to me, “Sorry, Dr. Bawa, we all know we talked to you and we set this entire account up, however we can’t reply your calls as a result of some folks name for vaginal rejuvenation, and that’s an inappropriate matter.” I stated, “Are you severe? Vaginal rejuvenation is inappropriate?” We’re not calling a porn channel, we’re not calling, you understand, “Hustler” or “Playboy.” These are, you understand, folks calling the physician’s workplace. Why is that this taboo? They usually stated, “Effectively, it’s embarrassing and it’s inappropriate.” I stated, “What about vaginal well being is inappropriate to you?” And these have been girls telling me this. So, I used to be horrified, horrified that in right this moment’s day and age, within the 12 months 2021, my answering service decides to not take my calls as a result of I supply vaginal rejuvenation and that’s offensive to them. So there must be a mindset shift right here.

Katie: I agree. That’s type of astounding that sufferers contact their precise physician a couple of medical downside…like, to me that may be the identical as like just like a pregnant girl attempting to name her OB and being instructed, “Oh, I’m sorry, we will’t discuss that as a result of your vagina is concerned.” Like, that’s astounding to me.

Dr. Bawa: I simply…you understand, my head was spinning. I nonetheless bear in mind I used to be getting out of a cab in Philadelphia and I stated, “What a part of that is inappropriate? What a part of that is unhealthy? Please clarify to me.” I actually requested the girl, I stated, “Ma’am with all due respect, do you could have a vagina? Do you ever discover that you just need assistance from a health care provider on your vagina? I don’t anticipate you to reply that query,” I stated to her, “however how are you going to deny girls the chance to make appointments for his or her vaginal well being?” So, I could offer you a small instance of the answering service, nevertheless it signifies an even bigger subject. It’s not okay to speak about it normally. Why? We’re all men and women, I imply, sexual well being is essential. We’re all in a scenario the place we now have the precise to have good, intimate wellness and to not be instructed that it’s unhealthy or soiled or upsetting to the common one that’s listening to us. Why is it upsetting to folks? What are we speaking about that’s inappropriate?

If it’s okay to speak about cardiac well being, why is it inappropriate to speak about sexual well being? Why is intercourse a unclean phrase? If it wasn’t for intercourse, you and I might not be alive right this moment. It’s not essentially a foul factor. And why ought to we be denied high quality of life? A very good intercourse life results in a greater relationship, results in a greater high quality of life. For those who don’t dribble urine once you train, you aren’t gonna have higher cardiac well being. I imply, it’s an even bigger subject than simply about your vagina and your bladder.

That’s why I say that what we do at Bawa Medical is so transformational as a result of we remodel lives. And that’s why I feel that this must cease being such a taboo matter, that Instagram must cease deleting my posts once I discuss it, that YouTube must cease sending me, you understand, little emails warning me in regards to the content material I’m placing out. Why am I being known as an issue little one as a result of I’m specializing in an issue that we’re all dealing with? So, a lot of this, there must be a shift in how we take into consideration this. It must be okay to speak. And that’s why I’m so completely happy you’re speaking about it.

Katie: Effectively, and also you’re so proper. I feel that the dialog is so essential. And for ladies simply to listen to that simply because these issues are widespread, it doesn’t imply they must be regular, or actually that they must expertise them. I’ve had six infants, 5 of them got here out vaginally and I don’t dribble urine once I train or bounce on a trampoline or sneeze. That doesn’t must be a factor. I feel many ladies assume that’s only a factor that occurs when you could have children, nevertheless it doesn’t must be. I feel beginning the dialog is step one towards it.

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And likewise a theme from this entire interview has been the mindset piece. And I feel that’s additionally an space the place there’s a lot alternative for all of us, however particularly girls on the subject of these subjects actually to have the ability to develop and enhance as a result of there’s a lot tied up in that.

And I’ve a word in my present notes that in case you have been going to offer a TED Speak, it will be on why you shouldn’t let adversity beat you down and that mindset piece. And I really like that regardless of all of your experience within the medical world, that that’s the factor that brings…is an important to you. So I’d love to listen to a little bit bit extra about that as a result of I feel you’re proper, mindset permeates by means of every little thing and is so, so essential. So, I might simply love to listen to a little bit little bit of your perspective on that, having been by means of adversity and never letting it beat you down.

Dr. Bawa: You understand, every little thing about who I’m right this moment has been as a result of I made a decision to beat adversity. I used to be a sufferer of…and I don’t discuss this often, and I’m going to strive to not choke up about it as I discuss it, however abuse, abuses and…and right here I’m going once more. Abuse is one thing that’s an enormous deal. Abuse is one thing that goes throughout all instructional, monetary obstacles. I used to be a sufferer of lots of emotional, home abuse and ultimately bodily abuse as properly. And also you wouldn’t suppose that a health care provider in my scenario would cope with that, however I did. I overcame that. I’m no longer in that scenario anymore, it lasted a few years. I received’t go into a lot element about it, however the level is it was a couple of mindset. One thing needed to change and I made a change. Most cancers, one thing needed to change, it couldn’t simply be about illness. It couldn’t simply be about vomiting. It couldn’t simply be about shedding hair. I needed to make it one thing that helped me turn out to be an even bigger individual, a greater individual. And I had to make use of my most cancers and my adversity to be a greater physician.

So, I’ve determined that it doesn’t matter what occurs to me in life, I’m going to make use of something damaging that occurs to me to assist me develop in no matter form or type that may be, to point out my sons, who’re my world, that life isn’t in regards to the negativity that occurs to us, it’s about what we select to do to rework it. And that’s why I feel that if I used to be to ever give a TED Speak, I hope to sometime, you by no means know, it will be about beating adversity. Like, I discussed about Miss Florida, it was by no means a couple of pageant. It was a a lot greater factor than only a pageant. It was about redefining mindset of a most cancers affected person. It was about redefining the concept of magnificence in most cancers as a result of most cancers isn’t purported to be lovely, proper? That’s not how we’re raised to consider it. Most cancers is one thing that makes you lower than your self. You lose your hair, you lose your pores and skin, you achieve weight, you drop pounds, however both approach, you’re not at your finest. So we assume that which means we’re not lovely. No, you’re simply as lovely if no more so as a result of now you could have overcome another factor. So, adversity is one thing that helps me reside a greater life. It doesn’t make sense, it’s virtually oxymoronic when you concentrate on adversity and higher life, however that’s how I select to see it. Adversity for me is a chance for additional development.

Katie: I absolutely agree having been by means of trauma in my previous as properly, I can now…I feel it takes some work and emotional shifts to get there, however I can now look again and have gratitude for all the teachings that got here from that and the issues that it allowed me to do and such as you, to assist different folks by means of that have and thru that story. Similar factor with my thyroid. I by no means would have cared a lot for well being had I not been given a cause. And I’m so grateful that that shift occurred. I feel you’re completely proper that that mindset piece is so essential and that it isn’t what occurs to us, it’s how we select to interpret that, reply to that, and develop from that or not as a result of we actually at all times have that alternative as properly. For me personally, one of many books that was useful in that was known as “The Untethered Soul,” and it helped me to course of a few of these feelings. And that’s one other query I like to ask at this level in interviews is that if there’s a ebook or plenty of books which have had a profound impression in your life or your journey, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Bawa: I feel a ebook that at all times comes up in my thoughts once I’m requested a query about books or a ebook that has modified me is a ebook known as “Outliers.” Outlier is a ebook written by Malcolm Gladwell about achievement and failure and what defines a winner, how the winners are often outliers on the top of that spectrum a technique or one other, and what number of occasions it’s a must to do one thing to succeed, to turn out to be good at it. And I feel that it’s a lot about perseverance and about rising above the common, above the norm that I feel is a ebook that basically helps me proceed my journey in the direction of self-improvement, in the direction of attaining excessive requirements. I’m a excessive achiever. It doesn’t matter what I do in life, I don’t settle for mediocrity. Mediocrity to me is a four-letter phrase. “It doesn’t matter what you do,” my father as soon as stated to me, once I was about 5 years outdated, “if you wish to be a chef, have Michelin stars after your title. If you wish to be a health care provider, be the perfect you may be.” So it’s not about what you do, it’s about excelling at it. You understand, if you wish to be any individual who does muffins for a residing, be Sylvia Weinstock. There’s greatness to be achieved in every little thing. In order that’s, you understand, one thing that I feel “Outliers” helped me define in my very own life.

Katie: That’s lovely. I really like that. And I’ll, in fact, put hyperlinks to your apply and to some put up referring to a number of the subjects we’ve talked about right this moment for any of you guys listening, particularly if you’re within the Florida space and wish to discover Dr. Bawa and be taught. These hyperlinks will probably be there. However any parting recommendation for our listeners right this moment, whether or not it’s on mindset or well being or any of the subjects we’ve mentioned?

Dr. Bawa: I feel if I might really give two items of recommendation in case you’ll let me, I feel I’d wish to say two issues. Firstly, girls, please go get examined, do month-to-month exams. They’re not simply one thing in a textbook, they save lives. They saved mine. So be higher advocates for yourselves, that is essential. If there’s one thing fallacious, go discover assist. And in case your physician blows you off, blow the physician off, discover one other physician who will hearken to you. Secondly, I might say, I imagine in high quality of life, be it in your sexual well being, be it in what you see once you look within the mirror. For those who’re not completely happy along with your hair, do one thing to make your hair higher. There may be assist on the market. For those who’re not having the perfect intercourse of your life, do one thing to make your self have the perfect intercourse of your life. Whether or not it’s balancing your hormones, whether or not it’s doing one thing like FemiWave, whether or not it’s, you understand, doing one thing nutritionally. No matter it’s that you just’re not proud of, don’t be complacent. So lots of my sufferers say, “Effectively, I’m not that unhealthy but.” That idea is senseless to me. Why would you wait until that time? Why would you wait until your life within the bed room is a whole catastrophe earlier than you make it higher?

Why not go do one thing like FemiWave, for example, the place it’s bought no downtime, it’s not painful? Do one thing for your self. For those who’re having points along with your hormones and also you’re having scorching flashes, communicate to your physician about optimizing your hormones. Try this. So, I feel, reside your finest life, no matter which means to you. In no matter form or type you’ll be able to elevate your existence, do it.

Katie: I really like that. And I feel that sums up lots of what we talked about right this moment and is an ideal place to wrap up. However I’m very grateful on your time right this moment. I’m very grateful that you’ve recovered, and also you’re thriving, and that you just’re serving to many different folks do the identical. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Bawa: Thanks a lot for having me. This was fantastic.

Katie: And thanks as at all times to you, guys, for listening, for sharing your most dear property, your time and power, and a focus with us right this moment. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the following episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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