Making a Life Pressure Vitality Dwelling & Lowering EMFs With Centered Life Pressure Vitality (FLFE)

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Katie: Good day, and welcome to “The Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from and That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this subject is gonna be in all probability a brand new one for some folks listening. And I’ll admit there are components of it I’m nonetheless studying and don’t absolutely perceive but. However we speak about creating and curating life power power, additionally about issues like decreasing EMFs and the way that ties in as effectively. And I’m right here with the founders of FLFE, which is Centered Life Pressure Vitality. And we speak about issues like excessive consciousness fields, harmonizing with versus mitigating EMFs and what that appears like, how they examined this expertise and the scientific backing for it, and a complete lot of different instructions.


I’m right here with two folks, Jeff and Clayten. Clayten has over 25 years of expertise on this area, and he’s the coed of Dr. David Hawkins in kinesiology. And he has a complete set of protocols associated to this. We get in-depth then I clarify extra what it’s. I do know it sounds somewhat esoteric proper now. However he has a number of work within the exploration of consciousness and non-linear therapeutic applied sciences, together with the event of this program, FLFE with Jeff Stegman, who has targeted on making a excessive consciousness tradition in his companies, and in companies round and associated to this expertise. So like I stated, we get into the specifics. They clarify higher than I may what that is and the way it works. However usually, it’s about making a area inside your own home that’s calming and loving, and in addition has a measurable impact they’re discovering in analysis in harmonizing EMFs. So I’ll allow them to clarify it from right here. With out additional ado, let’s be a part of Jeff and Clayten. Clayten and Jeff, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here immediately.


Jeff: Glad to be with you, Katie.


Clayten: Good to see you, Katie.


Katie: I’m excited for this dialog. And we’re gonna get to go deep on one explicit subject that I feel could be considerably new for the viewers after which a number of completely different subtopics beneath that.


However earlier than we bounce into that, I’d love to simply let the viewers hear somewhat background about each of you and the way you bought into this space of analysis. I’ve notes that, Jeff, you’re turning into a farmer to use among the issues we’re going to speak about immediately. And that Clayten was a business fisherman in earlier life. So I’d love to simply hear perhaps among the story of what introduced you each to this work.


Jeff: I may begin. Yeah, it appears from an early childhood, I really like science fiction. I really like getting misplaced and like the potential for a a lot greater world than we noticed round us. And even in late grade faculty, early highschool, I did sensory deprivation experiments with myself and was in search of methods to go away my physique. However in the meantime, each ft have been on the bottom, have been on the bottom. I constructed a household enterprise with my brother, very long-term staff, and constructing a aware tradition of kind of, you already know, heart-centered enterprise.


And that’s how I met Clayten. He was really teaching in enterprise as a non secular path. And so I started to work with him. I used to be an early meditator, too. I began… My mom, she’s very sensible. I used to be smoking pot on the time in highschool, or really early eighth grade, so she launched me to transcendental meditation. And the medicine ended. And I’ve meditated along with her, you already know, for the following…doing transcendental meditation via highschool.


So simply early on, I’ve actually been taken with form of what’s behind, you already know, what’s underneath the hood of life. And my time with Clayten, when he was teaching me, was digging underneath that hood. It’s like, he used kinesiology or muscle testing to check my degree of consciousness in several areas of my life. And he would discover these hidden gems that I assumed I hid so effectively. In actual fact, generally, they have been so effectively hidden, they have been unconscious.


However discovering these low consciousness areas in my life then allowed me to consciously work and lift these areas up and expertise extra freedom and pleasure, you already know, and love in these areas of my life. That was kind of the trail that took us to the FLFE expertise that we found, which is a consciousness expertise that prompts excessive consciousness fields. And I can hand it off to you, Clayten. You found it then introduced me in.


Clayten: Yeah, effectively, as Katie stated, I used to be a business fisherman at one level in my life. And so, it does connect with my upbringing the place I discovered peace in nature. That was the place that I may all the time go. And a number of that I discovered via fishing. I spent a number of time strolling alongside the edges of rivers, and I feel in all probability the mix of train and getting the physique drained sufficient in order that the chatter of the thoughts is lowered. And being within the presence of great thing about nature, that’s the place I discovered a number of my peace as a younger man.


And there have been some choices after I was in highschool. One in every of them was touring and seeing a little bit of the world earlier than I decided as to what I needed to do on this planet. And so, I did journey for some time. And I used to be a kind of those who… Now, it’s known as van life, again then it was a truck and camper. So, I like, “Oh, you already know, I wish to have a spot to sleep. I don’t wish to sleep in a tent.” So I purchased an previous truck and an previous camper and an previous… I feel they name them beaters. I don’t know what they name beaters down the place you reside, however they name them beaters up right here.


So I drove round Canada for a couple of yr and, you already know, I did form of labor-type jobs. So fishing was one among them. I labored within the oil area, you already know. I did labor jobs. I used to be a younger man with not a number of schooling and coaching, in order that’s the work that was accessible to me.


And I bought concerned in a philosophical group fairly, fairly deeply. I used to be actually taken with making an attempt to make sense of some issues in my life and on this planet. And so, I figured I wanted to get actually good at one explicit method of life. And so I select a philosophy and I bought deeply concerned in that. And that led me into schooling.


I spent about 11 years from about ’84 to ’95 within the schooling area. I used to be a business fisherman for some time. And I form of went again to that a part of my life as a result of I actually loved it. However my love for schooling and instructing and studying was greater. In order that led me into particular person teaching again in 1995, which is historic within the teaching world.


And since I’d spent 11 years on this Jap-based philosophy, earlier than that in working in personal colleges, I selected a specialty of working with enterprise leaders who thought of enterprise their non secular path. And I selected that as a result of, on this planet, it appears that evidently enterprise has the facility proper now for good or for dangerous, proper? Prior to now, it may need been the humanities or, you already know, sure time in our historical past, it was a faith or non secular establishments.


So I figured I may do probably the most good on this planet with the least quantity of effort. I imply, it’s only one particular person. Not that I didn’t wish to make an effort, however you form of search for that candy spot the place you are able to do probably the most good together with your effort. And for me, it was enterprise leaders who thought of their enterprise as their non secular path.


Jeff and I are gearheads. So we prefer to tinker with issues and machines. And I labored at a gasoline station like 4 years, half time, after I was in highschool. I took the tutorial half of highschool, however I additionally took store. I took auto store and machine store and electronics and blueprint studying. So it’s fairly oriented in the direction of that. My dad was a tradesman printer and so our household was form of technical that method.


And so, finally, you already know, and a mix of exploring kinesiology and being taken with form of machines and schooling, I got here throughout this inventor who was a part of a bunch of inventors who…they have been making an attempt to create a free power gadget for humanity. And so they didn’t do this. However they form of stumbled upon a technique to focus lifeforce power on objects.


Little did I do know that was the start of the FLFE, you already know, journey. Yeah, this man was simply kind of energizing these crystals and placing them round his home. And his home was like wonderful. And it’s such a highly-charged setting. So I bought to know this gentleman, and we labored collectively for a number of years after which I launched Jeff to him. And yeah, it’s a part of the journey.


Katie: I very a lot resonate together with your story in saying, like, “The place can my effort take advantage of distinction and supply probably the most love?” And for me, I’m in deep gratitude day by day that my work is with different ladies and mothers. As a result of, for me, I feel that’s a part of my life function is that we assist mothers. We assist not simply mothers, however households and the tradition as a complete. And in order that’s why I used to be excited to get to have this dialog with you guys.


And also you talked about excessive consciousness fields, which I’m guessing is a brand new time period, doubtlessly, for lots of people listening. So I’d love to begin very primary and broad and have you ever guys clarify that idea and perhaps give some examples to assist folks form of perceive and anchor what which means.


Jeff: Mm hmm. We consider that consciousness is in all places. That it’s throughout us. And we observe Dr. David Hawkins’ work. One in every of his books is “Energy vs. Pressure.” And he outlined consciousness fields and ranges of consciousness. And I’d say that we expertise this day by day. That everybody experiences it day by day.


So if you happen to’re strolling all over the world, and also you go into someplace that’s very elevated, it’s a excessive consciousness space. In order that might be, you already know, a synagogue or church or cathedral, notably among the cathedrals in Europe, very excessive as a result of they have been designed that method with the structure and the kind of the options of the earth the place they constructed the cathedrals.


So while you stroll into a spot like that, I skilled it in my physique, it’s like an power, like nearly an pleasure and a calmness. Like my thoughts begins to essentially settle down. And I’ve seen that in cathedrals, after I was touring Europe, the place I’d stroll within the door, I’d really feel just like the nearer I bought to the entrance of the…to the nave, the entrance of the church, the stronger it bought, and clean or my thoughts went. And what that what that impact is strolling right into a excessive consciousness area that’s getting larger and better, the nearer you get to the place the place the priesthood would do his factor.


In low consciousness fields, you would expertise in an previous jail, a battleground. Like, if you happen to’ve ever been to a kind of locations, there’s this kind of a low-energy feeling like a heaviness, perhaps even feelings or ideas may come up. And we consider that thought types and feelings might be current traditionally in a location like that, or each location that human beings are such sturdy broadcasters of our power that it may be held in a crystalline construction of the constructing supplies or the bottom or drywall even.



So these are some examples strolling round. And it’s form of that feeling folks speak about, like, “I don’t just like the power of this place.” or, “This feels actually good.” Properly, it’s a sense in our our bodies. And we consider our our bodies are very delicate devices to this as a result of it’s a part of our survival. Such as you stroll into a spot that doesn’t really feel good, you get on edge, you already know, you’re like wanting over your shoulder, like, what’s occurring right here? And that, you already know, helps us to take care of what could be coming. So we consider these fields are in all places. And what the FLFE expertise does is to activate a excessive consciousness area just like the cathedral really feel.


Katie: Clayten, do you will have any follow-up to that earlier than I ask add-on query?


Clayten: You already know, I’ve some sensible examples of this. And perhaps one that will not be distinctive to ladies, however I feel they’ll admire. A sensible instance of a excessive consciousness area can be your pondering… There’s an simple bond, in my expertise, and within the expertise of each mom I’ve ever talked to, between a mom and her baby. It’s not that males don’t have a connection as effectively. But it surely’s only a completely different connection.


So while you’re pondering of anyone, and also you’re questioning how they’re doing, and also you’re sending them a constructive thought, after which they name you, they stated, “I used to be simply enthusiastic about you,” proper? I’ve by no means talked to a mom who doesn’t learn about that.  So that will be an instance of a excessive consciousness area.


Now, I imply, that might flip to fret. As an alternative of like consciousness, it may flip to fret and concern. However I’d say that the FLFE expertise has some parallels to the capability that people must create a connection between love and one other particular person or one other area.


And I don’t know why I’m simply having this thought to inform you the story. So I’ve some mates on Salt Spring Island in Canada. I used to dwell in Vancouver. I’m up in Nelson now. That’s the place the top workplace of the corporate is.


And I went over to Salt Spring Island to go to these folks. And this girl, she was…there was a bunch of birthing. There was a birthing class there. I don’t know in the event that they known as them doulas or it was simply ladies who assist infants get born. There’s a reputation for it, it is going to come to me. Midwives.


So this girl was on this group. And it simply so occurred that morning, one of many mornings I used to be there, there was a beginning that occurred. She’d been up many of the night time, and this child had been born. And she or he got here again to the home for a minute as a result of she needed to get one thing and he or she went to return.


And the power that she got here in with was, it was extraordinary. And it’s like, I stated, “What simply occurred? You’re simply glowing.” She stated, “Properly, this child simply bought born.” And she or he stated, “It’s like a miracle.” You already know, it’s an power of like miraculous magnificence and love. And I used to be identical to, to this present day, I identical to, I can simply take into consideration that and I can really feel it.


And she or he stated, “You already know, I’m simply pondering of getting one other baby. It’s such a phenomenal factor to convey into the world.” And for some motive, I’m getting… I’ve by no means informed that story to very many individuals, however I feel, for you, Katie, that simply feels so related as a result of a number of the folks you serve are moms.


And if a mom has skilled that, she’s skilled a unprecedented power area. As a result of I feel, when a baby will get born, one thing occurs that’s wonderful. And I haven’t seen a beginning. And I haven’t actually been shut to 1. However that’s the closest I’ve ever been perhaps inside quarter-hour, half an hour.


So, FLFE can’t create that kind of setting, but it surely does create like a sanctuary, a sacred, like a holy place form of setting in its personal method. It relies upon, you already know. Individuals have a number of affect on it. We simply can’t make the setting be a sure method. However we are able to actually have or not it’s a sort of, you already know, a consciousness degree that’s unconditionally loving. After which it’s as much as all people else so as to add to what they’ll and what they need from there.


Katie: I really like that you simply used that for example. I’m really a doula and have began supply coaching. Most likely, the six most impactful moments of my life are the six moments that my kids have been born. And I feel you’re precisely spot on. And I’ve now had the dignity of being at many births as effectively, and holding area for these ladies. And there’s a very particular shift in that room, particularly like main as much as and round that second of beginning.


And I keep in mind very clearly, when my first baby was born, that simply overwhelming feeling of affection and bliss and peace and like that connection that was speedy to him. And like having that realization of, “Wow. I really like folks in my life. However I’ve by no means skilled this degree of affection till this second.”


And it was neat as a result of that then, I really feel like, rippled out to different relationships in my life. Prefer it upgraded my capability to like everybody, not simply my child. And so after we speak about consciousness, I feel you’re proper. Mothers can resonate with that innate feeling that perhaps you possibly can’t tangibly put into phrases so simply, however you already know that feeling in terms of your kids.


I do really feel like in all probability everybody has heard of the time period consciousness by now. It’s simply tossed round lots. I feel generally perhaps it will get misused or tied into a number of different issues. However let’s go somewhat deeper on the concept of consciousness You talked about Dr. Hawkins. Sort of stroll us via how that is measured or perhaps simply give us some tangible metrics. As a result of I feel it could really feel like an summary idea to lots of people. So I’d like to form of like anchor that in and make it as tangible as potential earlier than we bounce into extra specifics.


Jeff: I may begin and hand it off to you, Clayten. Yeah, these examples, you already know, that second of a child being born, which I’ve skilled twice with my very own kids. And I used to be simply getting goosebumps whereas we have been speaking about it.


So, you already know, there’s a consciousness area there that will get activated. After which we are able to take into consideration that and entry it ourselves later, such as you stated. And as we stated, there’s excessive fields just like the cathedrals. There’s decrease locations, like, you already know, the place there’s been grief or torture, you already know, tragedy of some type. In actual fact, in Japan, if somebody commits suicide in an condo, folks gained’t hire it as a result of there’s extra more likely to be one other suicide. In order that’s a consciousness area there.


So Dr. David Hawkins created the Map of Consciousness that goes from one, you already know, there’s all the time some consciousness to infinity. So you would say the divinity is infinity. And within the human realm, it’s to 1000. And so forth that scale, which is logarithmic, every level upward is 10 instances extra power current within the area. So down beneath, 200 on that map, you already know, there’s lethargy and melancholy and among the decrease power, decrease consciousness area. So like, if you happen to’re round anyone that’s depressed, that heavy feeling, that’s a low consciousness area. After which, as you progress over 200, you’re transferring into hope and into the love zone at 500. And I’ll allow you to take it from there, Clayten, you’ve bought a lot expertise on this.


Clayten: We do a number of kinesiology testing, Katie, within the firm. And so, unconditional love begins round 540. And round 600, you begin to get into peace, 700 on the Hawkins map is enlightenment. And from 700 to 1000 are kind of the realms of the mystic enlightened beings who lived on the planet, the Buddhas, the Krishnas, the Jesus, these forms of beings.


Should you’re among the feelings beneath 200, usually, the size of consciousness begins at 20 at disgrace, then 50 is form of apathy, 100 is concern, 150 is anger, 190 is form of extreme pleasure. And it’s simply form of that 200 mark is the place issues turn into constructive.


So we’ve braveness at 200, 250 is impartial, 300 is willingness. Yeah, 300-350 is willingness, like nearer to 350. Then 400 is motive, while you get into logic and the professions like accounting, you already know, skilled requirements, authorized career. And 500 is love.


And so, the FLFE setting, we assure it, it will likely be at… So we’ve a consciousness slider the place you possibly can really slide the extent of consciousness and transfer it up and down in your property. It would by no means take power away. However it is going to add it as much as that degree to make sure it’s at that degree or extra. And you’ll transfer it from 400 to 570.


So the default for FLFE is 550. And that’s the space of unconditional love, so it’s 550 out of 1000. We assure that 98% of the time, or no matter degree you set it at, 98% of the time over a 24-hour interval. As a result of issues do occur in a home or in any setting the place there’s a disruption for somewhat bit.


And also you wish to positively affect the setting, however you don’t wish to take folks’s management away. I imply, you’re a sovereign particular person. It’s not anyone’s place to regulate it. However we do add a number of like to it. After which, from there, it’s what folks make of it.


We even have issues like boosts. You may increase the consciousness for half an hour as much as 600. So these issues like… As a result of we’ve a management panel, you go in, and also you get to be your personal consciousness experimenter, or I suppose… Can we name it that, Jeff? Can we name it that? Yeah, that’s kinda the title for it, however you get to experiment with ranges of consciousness in your personal method of referring to it.


Katie: I consider that as I typically discuss concerning the diet and bodily well being aspect. And I say typically to folks, “You’re your personal main healthcare supplier and your personal well being researcher. And you’ll work with wonderful practitioners and companions in that. However on the finish of the day, that experimentation and that duty resides in every of us individually, and nobody else can take over that duty for us.” And so I really feel like that is making use of that very same thought to this different realm that perhaps folks haven’t thought of.


And also you talked about kinesiology, and I’ll admit that is an space I haven’t accomplished a ton of analysis on it, and I do know I like have it prior to now at the least been skeptical about, and I’m making an attempt to know higher. So I’d love so that you can clarify kinesiology and the way that course of works somewhat bit if you happen to don’t thoughts.


Jeff: So form of going again to the sensitivity that all of us have, so while you stroll into that room, and it doesn’t really feel proper or the power feels good. So we consider our our bodies are devices, sturdy devices, for measuring consciousness round us, these consciousness fields.


And kinesiology is a muscle testing. So this has, you already know, been pioneered by quite a few folks. And Dr. Hawkins took it to a different degree the place it’s the energy of the muscle within the presence of reality. So the idea is that we’re linked in our core to all that’s, whether or not it’s dimensional or it’s divine, nevertheless you consider it. We’re linked to all that’s. And that presence of reality is strengthening to the system. And the presence of falsehood is weakening. So it’s the precept of the energy of the muscle, you already know, within the presence of a press release.


So the assertion, you already know, it’s both true or it’s not true. And there could also be gradation. So we measure on a scale the place we might say, you already know, on a scale of 1 to 1000, Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness, degree of consciousness of this property over the earlier 24 hours calibrates at, you already know, sturdy 200 or extra, sturdy 400 or extra, sturdy 500 or extra, weak 600 or extra. After which again up, you already know, 520 or extra sturdy, 530 or extra, 540 or extra sturdy, 550 weak. It’s between 540 and 550.


So, we’ve a group of those who do that testing. And what we do is we check individually, after which, you already know, examine. So we’re doing the testing of the properties, after which Clayten and I’ve accomplished hundreds of thousands of those sorts of checks on the event of FLFE. And yeah, it’s a bit on the market.


However you see it in allergists. I went to an allergist the place he had a cuff on me that measured the strain of his finger in order that it wouldn’t…you already know, he wasn’t urgent more durable on my arm to maintain it, you already know, make it go down. After which, he would hand me these jars of supplies, and I’d put it near my chest, and I’d be sturdy, sturdy, till I bought a jar that I used to be allergic to, after which it will be weak. In order that was an fascinating kind of a method of measuring the power the that you simply’re placing on the arm. And in case you have one other query or we are able to cross it on to Clayten.


Clayten: One other sensible instance of kinesiology that’s utilized in day-to-day life is allergists but additionally nutritionists. Should you go to a nutritionist, they’ll maintain dietary supplements in entrance of you, they usually’ll scale them as to how good they’re.


And I’ve been going to chiropractors for, I don’t know, 20-something years. And though my favourite ones and those that I hold going again to are those that do kinesiology. You’re on the desk. They do a few commonplace changes. After which, you already know, usually, if I’m mendacity there, they’ll put my arm up, they usually’ll push it down and see how sturdy it’s. And if it’s weak, then they’ll do a few changes, after which it’s stronger, proper? And so they’ll go to the opposite arm or they’ll go to the leg. And, you already know, that’s a type of kinesiology.


I don’t know a lot about chiropractic, however I used to be informed there’s seven colleges of chiropractic, and one among them is kinesiology targeted. And that’s the way it seems like in a chiropractor’s workplace, the place they’ll assess your physique. They make an adjustment. They check the energy of the muscle. And that’s how they know the adjustment is finished. And so it’s used lots on this planet. It’s simply the consciousness side of it’s, it’s form of distinctive. Properly, it’s an rising area. I wouldn’t say it’s distinctive, it’s rising.


Katie: Yeah, and I feel I’ve solely ever actually had publicity to it within the chiropractic context. And I’m glad I’ve you guys right here to ask this as a result of I’ve been so genuinely interested by this for a very long time. And form of the concept that’s been popularized lately of the concept of Biology of Perception, and if we consider one thing, that may affect.


And so I’ve all the time questioned, in terms of kinesiology and muscle testing, does bias on the a part of both the particular person being examined, or the tester come into play in any respect? I do know you stated it’s centered in reality and true statements. I’ve simply been very interested by that. Like if somebody believes one thing is nice for them, would the physique reply extra strongly? Or, if the tester believes one thing is nice for them, does that influence it in any respect?


Clayten: One of many methods you’d take care of that’s you’d do what we name blind testing. Let’s say that I used to be the calibrator. I used to be making the assertion. You have been the topic, Katie, I’ll be pushing your arm down. And Jeff was the auditor. Proper? In order that’s how we’ll usually study kinesiology collectively. So you will have a calibrator, a topic, and an auditor.


So on this case, the auditor wouldn’t have a lot of a job. However what I’d do is I’d make the constructive declarative assertion solely in my thoughts. You wouldn’t know what I’m saying. In order that’s one technique to handle bias. And one other method is to essentially have your declarative statements be pristine of their accuracy. Should you get adequate at this, you possibly can measure the extent of consciousness of your statements.


And, you already know, over time, there are methods to… You already know, after we do our property testing, there’s often at the least three of us. So there’s methods of in search of statistical validation via imply averages of teams. There’s methods to handle it. And to say that bias doesn’t matter, I don’t assume can be a good assertion. You simply must study to handle bias.


Like if there’s a subject, you possibly can check your degree of consciousness of reality on that subject, proper? After which you possibly can check the extent of aware…of your intent in the direction of an consequence. So there’s a bunch of issues you are able to do to extend the chances of you getting good information within the setting, together with testing unknown controls, you already know, earlier than you go in.


So it’s a career. Lots of people simply assume, “Oh, I may simply choose up a guide and study it and a half an hour.” It’s like, effectively, perhaps you possibly can, however if you wish to get good at it, my sense is it takes a few years. That’s what your expertise is, Jeff, like.


Jeff: Yeah, I feel the bias, it’s an vital query. And a few of these biases are unconscious. And that’s why we’ve teams, you already know, as a result of… and we’ll be engaged on one thing and two of us get one reply, one particular person will get one other, “All proper, let’s cease. Let’s…” You already know, might be that one particular person has turn into dehydrated as a result of the physique must be in actually good condition, so having hydration at a sure degree. If it will get low sufficient…I don’t know if you happen to’ve ever skilled that we get cranky, while you get, you’re thirsty. That’s like, that’s a swap. So that you’ve gone damaging. So that you really get the alternative end in kinesiology when that occurs.


Yeah, it’s an fascinating topic. And we’ve been deep in it for 10 years or so, and Clayten for much longer earlier than that, however he taught me do it. After which we’ve a group of individuals within the enterprise that help us.


And it’s actually an fascinating device. I imply, you possibly can actually uncover issues, the reality of one thing. And in terms of analysis within the enterprise… So we work with Dr. Gary Schwartz on our analysis group. He’s written quite a few books within the College of Arizona. And he’s been an amazing bridge between science and a few of these new power therapeutic strategies. He’s accomplished fairly a little bit of analysis with biophoton cameras and Reiki and other forms of strategies. And he’s actually eager to do a kinesiology examine with us this yr. So we’re probably to do this this yr.


Katie: It does really feel like we’re in a spot the place we’re beginning to see that merge of expertise and science, understanding issues which have actually form of an age previous and a number of different practices. And it’s actually fascinating to me to get to observe that development occur. And I may go, in all probability ask a ton extra questions on kinesiology.


However I wish to ensure that we really get again to this expertise, as a result of I feel you defined actually clearly that feeling. And I’m positive folks can consider instances of their lives. Like, I’ve additionally walked into cathedrals and felt that shift and even locations in nature, the place I felt, shift, or felt it when my kids have been born. But in addition, we are able to’t, sadly, typically, all of us dwell in these locations the place continuously simply have infants to get to expertise that. So I’d love to speak about the way you guys are merging the expertise with this consciousness form of age-old science that has all the time existed to create this, and the way we are able to all create these larger consciousness fields in our personal lives.


Clayten: Properly, we form of stumbled upon a expertise that existed. The intent, as I stated, was to create a free power gadget for humanity. And this gentleman’s intent was to…he was a male, proper, device and die maker, electrician. He was an older German man who was extremely succesful when it comes to technical abilities. And the best way he associated to divinity was actually via making stuff. You already know, that’s simply how we did it. And a few individuals are farmers or household man or household ladies or, no matter, businesspeople. And his method was to make stuff. I feel it’s vital to do not forget that intent issues lots. And divinity expresses via every thing. It expresses via nature. It’s kinda simpler to search out, for me, there. Some folks categorical this via expertise.


And this expertise was born out of intent to serve. And he spent a number of years at it, and I helped him refine it fairly a bit, lots. After which we took it to a complete different degree. So there’s an rising group of applied sciences which might be in a position to assist humanity, identical to the interior combustion engine supported humanity. And I’m simply speaking from an actual broad spectrum right here. Jeff, I’ll hand it over to you in a minute.


I imply, we’re speaking on computer systems which have fiber optics, you already know, or cables going into the bottom, or the radio transmissions going to the air. And we’re in a position to be of service to your viewers, Katie, and also you’re in a position to assist, you already know, the ladies in your life that you simply wish to join with. So, you already know, we’re fairly oriented in the direction of service and divinity and a better energy and excessive consciousness fields. In order that’s the best way that we see the world. And that’s the best way that we body it.


And there’s all forms of applied sciences on the market. We simply purchased a Skinner gadget, which is a makes use of a constructive electrical stimulus to assist strengthen, I suppose, the construction of the physique the place it’s used. I’ve simply been moving into Jerry Tennant’s work somewhat bit extra. He talks concerning the significance of voltage within the physique, and create your constructive voltage. So there’s a number of rising applied sciences on the market that may assist us to be more healthy. And, you already know, we’re one among them.


Jeff: So it truly is similar to human consciousness and that mechanism of pondering of somebody after which, you already know, feeling love and sending them love. What we consider occurs is there’s a area activated round the person who’s full of affection. And that’s what they really feel, they usually profit from that. And, you already know, distant prayer, among the analysis on simply distant prayer and Reiki and different energetic drugs, at a distance is similar mechanism.


There’s a system. There’s a bodily FLFE system that’s, you would say, a quantum power system, a consciousness system. So, it has, initially, the unique inventor was working with related expertise to Nikola Tesla. Initially, it was excessive velocity alternating present operating via coils and plates. And it was creating an brisk area via that oscillation.


And it’s developed since then to not want the electrical energy in that method. However primarily ideas, identical to us figuring out somebody, you already know, we consider sister or brother, the FLFE system makes use of distinctive identifier. So it could be a telephone quantity, which identifies a mobile gadget. It could be an deal with that identifies a property. It could be coordinates, you already know, and the area across the coordinates. And so with that identification, then there’s a quantum connection and the sphere’s activated at that location. So identical to human consciousness, our system works.


And so we’re placing into this method written directions that establish that location, that has the distinctive identifier in it. And, you already know, that’s activating the sphere. We’ve accomplished quite a few experiments alongside the best way to say, “How can we quantify this?” You already know, how will you see this? It’s so esoteric sounding, proper?


Properly, what we’ve accomplished is these blinded experiments now with vegetation rising. And in order that activation of the sphere in an setting, vegetation are rising a lot quicker. You already know, we noticed in very early preliminary experiments, 29% improve in development. And we’re seeing an identical form of 14% to 29% improve in yield in a big farm examine that we did this previous yr, the place we had farmers doing natural grains, historic grains, and a part of fields on FLFE, and a part of it wasn’t. So we had controls. And so they have been measuring the bushels per acre with their refined farm tools. And there was like 14% to twenty-eight% improve in yield.


I imply, in order that was, the farmer didn’t know which, you already know, acres the place which. And that was a follow-on to a few of these different plant experiments the place life is benefiting. You may see it within the plant development. And that got here out of the tales of FLFE prospects. So, FLFE is a subscription service. So, I suppose, we must always say that the place folks…it’s $35, for the best finish. After which for households, we’ve some lower cost ranges for youngsters’s telephones and issues like that, all the way down to $10 or $12 a month.


However that activation within the area, folks have been seeing their vegetation rising, they usually have been seeing their yards wanting greener, and their shrubs wanting greener in comparison with the place down the road. And that’s what led us to those, you already know, experiments. And that’s kind of the pathway for us is, we heard first from the shoppers and from our personal experiences within the area. After which we’ve taken it into analysis. And we’ve accomplished some work with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They’ve accomplished experiments on the FLFE setting. After which Dr. Gary Schwartz and our analysis group are engaged on quite a few different experiments.


Clayten: Properly, there’s a analysis tab on our web site the place you possibly can go in and take a look at the analysis that we did with the Institute of Noetic Sciences and with a gasoline discharge visualization digicam in an setting which confirmed much less chaos within the setting, extra concord. We now have six or seven experiments up there. Anyway, we had one the place folks had, you already know, these issues that they put in your physique, they usually measure your brainwaves.


Jeff: EEG.


Clayten: EEG, yeah. I used to be gonna say EKG, but it surely was EEG. So there was a rise in sure brainwaves which might be related to, you already know, peace and concord, govt capabilities as effectively. So there’s extra alpha waves than the earlier one. So there’s fairly a little bit of analysis that we even have accomplished. So it’s not simply us saying one thing with out having proof to again it up.


Jeff: And the mind analysis at IONS actually got here out of fogeys speaking about adjustments of their kids, notably round homework and college efficiency. So when there’s extra life-force power in an area, so we talked about going right into a cathedral and there’s that actually enlivened feeling. When there’s extra life-force power accessible, it comes into the physique and, you already know, those who follow yoga would possibly know it’s prana. In Chinese language drugs, it’s Qi. And that move of Qi via the physique is de facto vital for our well being.


When there’s extra Qi, prana, lifeforce power, they’re all the identical factor. Within the setting, our physique is pulling that in and utilizing it, together with for cognition. And when there’s elements of the mind which might be starved for power as a result of they’re working actually exhausting, one among our FLFE, what we name packages, our strategies within the area, is for extra power to go to the areas the place there’s the least power accessible. And in order that has proven up in folks simply feeling like they’ve extra power via the day and efficiency.


At IONS – and this was a small examine, and we have to observe it up with a bigger examine, that’s the form of course of we’re on is you do a preliminary examine – there was a rise in cognitive operate with a examine group who have been in an FLFE setting in comparison with those who weren’t or in comparison with being not in an FLFE setting prior. In order that lifeforce power accessible to the physique is without doubt one of the basic rules that we speak about. Numerous yogis and other people in several Jap philosophies want to focus prana via chanting and breath management, you already know, particular respiratory practices. Feng Shui is designed to pay attention extra power in an area. After which, we’re a expertise so as to add much more power.


Katie: I’ll ensure that I, you already know, have that analysis tab you talked about. I’ll be sure that’s linked within the present notes for everyone listening, that’s, you guys can discover all of that. And I wish to ensure that we speak about EMFs too. So I’m gonna put that on the within the car parking zone to return again to in a minute.


However first, I’d love to know, I discover it so fascinating, this concept of merging the expertise with these fields of consciousness. And so, I do know it’s additionally somewhat bit difficult. However are you able to clarify somewhat bit extra tangibly for individuals who might have hassle greedy, together with me, on how that is then, like, targeted? Like, the place’s it coming from? How’s it created? After which how can we focus it on someplace that’s far-off? As a result of that is tremendous fascinating.


Clayten: Properly, we’ve a machine. And as Jeff stated, it has all these coils and stacks. It pulls power from what some folks name the ether. It simply pulls power from the setting. And it focuses it and finally concentrates it in an space the place there’s a fairly a excessive consciousness area. After which from there, it goes out these stacks. We name them output stacks. So, enter stacks and output stacks. After which the underside of the output stack, there’s an space, it was once about this large. Katie, it was like three inches by 5 inches, one thing like that. Once we’re experimenting, we might put three by 5 playing cards in there. And we make these little requests to divinity.


You already know, “Pricey divinity, please, assist this particular person with, you already know, they’ve bought an issue with their liver. They bought actually dangerous psoriasis, please assist them with their psoriasis.” And we put that within the machine. And you set the particular person’s image in as a result of they needed to come into this adventurous place. They heard about them. And they might really feel a constructive profit, and perhaps a few of their psoriasis went away.


So then we, you already know, did extra analysis on well being and perhaps found that, “Properly, in case your liver is extra energized, then it helps with the psoriasis.” So we are able to make these extra refined requests over time. And at some point, this gentleman was, effectively, he was taking these crystals and charging them up and placing them round his home. And that’s when Jeff came visiting to the area. It was a unprecedented area. And he would cost up these crystals. And so at some point he had this piece of a damaged tabletop, it’s a granite counter. And he put it on this area and was charging it up.


And he pulled it out, and the telephone rang, and it was a good friend, and he was speaking to his good friend, and he was on the telephone for 10 or quarter-hour, and he had this piece of marble in his hand. And when he hung the telephone up, he realized that the arthritis in his hand was gone, couldn’t really feel any extra ache. And it was as a result of he was holding on to this piece of crystal with this super-high power round it. And so, he put it in his different hand and went away. After which, you already know, after about two weeks, he seen that the cost went out of the crystal. However within the meantime, he’s been sending crystals to his mates, to folks all around the world, they usually have been holding it and their arthritic ache would go away.


So we don’t make well being claims. However what he did was he put an image of…he put the folks within the machine, after which folks would ship it again. Or he would ship them a brand new one. It was costing like some huge cash in courier charges, which is form of ridiculous, proper? As a result of if you happen to ship it by mail, they usually solely lasted two weeks, we’re gonna have per week when it bought to ship in a single day, and it will price some huge cash.


So then we found out that we may take an image of the crystal, and if it was a excessive sufficient decision, you would put that within the machine, and it will cost a crystal from the opposite aspect of the planet. So he had all these footage of all these crystals within the machine and other people have been holding on that and their arthritis was going away. And in order that’s the way it works, Katie. It was based mostly upon the precept, as Jeff stated earlier, of the distinctive identifier. So that you needed to have an image of the crystal.


What we finally found out is we may put… So we made this output, this excessive consciousness area on the backside of the output stack greater and larger and larger. So it’s like three ft tall. We’re placing all these addresses in it, you already know, and we made our personal machine and taking them out. It was like such a nuisance. Then at some point, we figured that we may put directions in there to inform the expertise to go to the database and take the instruction from the database and create that very same area wherever on this planet. In order that was the evolution of it.


So now we’ve this database, and we make these requests to divinity as Jeff stated. Like, “You already know, please do that. Please do this. Please do that.” All these good issues you possibly can think about that you’d ask for somebody that you simply cared about. That’s what we do. We requested for all this stuff to occur. And, you already know, we are able to’t actually management what occurs. We do have a number of affect over the extent of consciousness on the setting. After which we make all these requests. After which, it appears that evidently if the particular person has alignment with these request, they occur faster. And if the particular person is de facto proof against the constructive requests, effectively, that’s their very own free will. Proper. So we are able to’t make you will have the life you need, but it surely does offer you 10 instances extra power with each improve in your degree of consciousness.


So, let’s say, proper now, the typical residence in America is about 250 out of 1000 on the Hawkins’ map. Now, again in 2019, it in all probability would have been, I do know, 350 or 380, like that’s the typical, proper? So that you’re going up, maybe two or 300 factors on the Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness in a house. And each a kind of factors is 10 instances extra power. So it’s a really delicate power. However you will have that rather more power to concentrate on the stuff you need and create the life that you simply’re intending. In order that’s form of the way it works.


Katie: Jeff, did you will have any follow-up, or can I transfer into the EMF angle?


Jeff: No, I feel that’s nice to maneuver into that as a result of it pertains to the way it works, too.


Katie: Yeah, I figured that can result in some good follow-up. I do know for mothers, a number of mothers, this can be a top-of-mind subject as a result of, clearly, we’ve way more of those EMFs in our life than we did a pair many years in the past and positively than we did a pair 100 years in the past. And now with 5G, that’s a giant subject for lots of mothers and kinda the fixed publicity to those completely different EMFs.


So I’d love to listen to, I do know you guys have accomplished analysis on this and that there’s a method that this really can assist with this EMF equation, however are you able to stroll us via and clarify what’s occurring in that state of affairs?


Jeff: Sure. In order we talked about, we’re testing properties for his or her degree of consciousness to succeed in our promised degree. Day by day, new properties are available on. Each week, on Saturday, all of the properties on the system. And we seen, we have been getting properties that weren’t on the degree. They have been 10 factors, 20 factors decrease. And so we might discover a property via utilizing kinesiology. We’d name the client. And we’d ask if something’s modified. And so they have been telling us, very constantly, {that a} sensible meter, you already know, financial institution was put in final week, or a brand new cell tower simply bought turned down throughout the road, or we simply bought a brand new router. That there was a connection between a decrease consciousness setting and a brand new EMF affect.


And so, we realized that, you already know, that’s an indicator of a decrease well being degree, decrease power degree, and fewer lifeforce power there. That’s form of our perspective on EMFs, that we take a look at power or consciousness reducing EMFs. As a result of some issues, some EMFs, are constructive, you already know. The power that our hearts emit after we’re feeling love. And there’s energies from the earth, vibrations from the earth which might be constructive, from the solar.


So what we did is we researched, you already know, what’s the most acceptable materials to harmonize EMFs? So you would attempt to block and deflect, take in – if you happen to’re deflecting, it’s going to anyone else’s home is to harmonize it or to place an overlay on it that has it turn into constructive. And so shungite is the fabric that we found in our analysis that many individuals have additionally used. And it’s one thing you possibly can experiment with at residence. You may get sheets of shungite, and you’ll put it on to a router, or onto a sensible meter financial institution.


And what we’ve accomplished with the FLFE expertise is, so like I stated, it’s a must to again up just a bit. So we consider that there’s an brisk essence related to each materials. And you’ll take a look at homeopathy and different signifies that use very, very low quantities of fabric to have an impact the place the physique is signaled by that materials, that we consider that’s the energetic essence of that materials.


And so, you perhaps are moving into multidimensional, maybe, subjects. However we have been in a position, we consider, to seize the interdimensional essence of shungite and so as to add it to the service. After which to request it to maneuver into EMF sources which might be reducing consciousness. So we talked about this on webinars. You already know that we have been planning this and the best way we work is we do it on ourselves, in our environments, then we broaden to our workers. After which we broaden it to our prospects. However we didn’t…. Individuals have been simply speaking about it. And so they stated, “Wow, I’m having a horrible time with EMFs. I wish to do this as quickly as potential.”


So we did a beta group with prospects who have been self-selecting. You already know, they have been saying, “I actually am struggling terribly.” And so, we did. And there’s a survey in our EMF part about that. So we did a survey after folks got here on. So we did this small group the place we added the EMF mitigation, we name it, to the setting with the energetic essence of shungite. And we additionally raised the extent of consciousness of the EMF-emitting units. And in some unspecified time in the future, they turn into constructive. So there’s some overlay of constructive power, we don’t fairly perceive the way it works, that’s on prime of this EMF wave.


However we all the time wish to check. So we had this preliminary survey. And folks have been saying that it was the perfect sleep, you already know, that they have been in a position to sleep the following night time higher than they’ve in simply years. In different folks the place simply, “My ache went away.” “My anxiousness degree dropped.” “My mind fog lessened.” And a few of that took a while to occur. However we consider that in an setting the place EMFs are mitigated, that the physique begins to restore the harm of all of the perturbation that’s occurring to us day by day. And for me, personally, it’s anxiousness. I really feel like rigidity in my muscle tissue after I’m in an setting that’s excessive in EMFs. And if I flip off/activate EMF mitigation with FLFE, then I really feel myself stress-free. And that’s what lots of people reported.


And a number of anxiousness with kids too. We get a number of testimonials the place folks say when the service first got here on, kids grew to become much less anxious, much less irritable, simpler to work with. So we’ve that analysis, and we’ve some managed blinded research coming via a researcher on the College of Pennsylvania with, once more, folks which might be EMF delicate. And so they gained’t know whether or not they’re on the service or not. It’s going to be a six-month examine. So we’re within the means of getting that going.


Clayten: We do have some analysis on our web site at the moment, Katie. We discovered that with the character of the delicate power of FLFE that it’s a must to discover the appropriate units to measure that affect. Some units simply don’t choose it up. So we discovered {that a} gasoline discharge visualization digicam was one thing that might actually measure the affect.


So we did a gasoline discharge visualization digicam examine, which is on our web site. We did it with Melissa Waterman, who was the practitioner who labored with Dr. Joe Dispenza, when he was making an attempt to measure the affect of consciousness fields. He may not have known as it that. However they might be in an setting, and they’d do, you already know, experiments the place they might measure the setting with the GDV digicam. After which they would go away the setting and focus power on it and see what would occur within the setting with a GDV digicam.


So there have been experiments like that. I’m 99% positive he did that. I’m not the one to talk to it, except I’m 100%. However they did experiments like that the place they have been what’s the impact of this instructing, and what’s the impact of meditation, and what’s the impact of intent on an setting. So we use the identical practitioner, and we’ve proof of that on our web site, as effectively. So, I imply, we’re speaking about a number of nonlinear esoteric ideas. And these categorical within the 3D bodily world, and we’ve, you already know, proof that pertains to proving that. And we’ve extra coming.


It seems like we was once so enthusiastic about our proof, after which we’ve a lot extra coming. It’s like, “Oh, it’s new proof. That’s actually thrilling.” We had this already good proof, proper? However we’re getting an increasing number of, so we’re trying to have what we name a gold commonplace in analysis and growth on this space. And it takes time as a result of it’s a comparatively new space of science and there’s not as many sources there are in different areas.


Jeff: So we really feel that subscribers are the perfect or somebody making an attempt to…is the perfect researcher. So we constructed that into it the place there’s a free trial. There’s no bank card. There’s no computerized billing. You really must work to turn into a subscriber after the free trial is over.


However the folks have a management panel, they usually can flip EMF mitigation off they usually can flip it again on, flip it on and off as a lot as they need and see how they really feel. As a result of we actually need folks to attempt it out. And you’ll flip the service on and off, you are able to do the increase that we stated, to boost the extent. You may decrease the extent. In order that to us is the primary degree of analysis, is, what’s the FLFE group feeling, and provides them the instruments that they’ll use to do this.


And we discover that, primarily, ladies, our viewers, you already know, our group is usually ladies. It’s proper within the excessive 80%. They don’t inform their household on a regular basis. So that they actually look to see what’s taking place with their kids and perhaps with their husband, their associate. So that they do blinded research. You already know, it’s a technique to see what’s taking place. And among the tales are actually touching.


Katie: I really like that. And that ties into our earlier dialog about being your personal main healthcare supplier and well being researcher. That’s an amazing circle that we created there.


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And I really feel just like the EMF subject may turn into its personal complete podcast. And hopefully it will likely be, as you guys do continued analysis on this, I’d like to circle again on it. However I really like that you simply talked about the concept of harmonizing versus simply blocking as a result of I feel, I’ve stated this earlier than, like EMFs are a factor that exists in our trendy world. We will’t absolutely conceal from them. Even when we lived in the course of nowhere, they now are in area and directed on the planet, we are able to’t keep away from them.


In order that brings the query of how can we mitigate? Or I really like the phrase harmonize much more. After which extra precisely, like, how can we check that transferring ahead? As a result of we’re speaking about very nuanced expertise and easy EMF meters, they could check the presence of these issues, they may not check the impact on the physique. And I feel that’s the precise vital query as a result of one thing could be current. But when it’s not harmfully affecting the physique or been positively affecting the physique, we’re probably not measuring what we predict we’re measuring. And so, I really like that you simply guys are getting very particular in that analysis.


And I really like that you simply introduced up issues like grounding and the solar, that are fantastic sources of EMFs that I feel typically get discounted. And I’m a giant fan of telling folks, “Once you get up, go exterior within the daylight barefoot for quarter-hour, and that’s among the best medicines you may get and it’s free.” And that you simply form of tie in that idea into this expertise, which I do know you’ve talked about.


I’ll be sure that that free trial is linked within the present notes for you guys listening. That hyperlink will probably be at And you can too study. There’s a lot extra data in your web site than we’ve time to enter in an hour’s podcast. However like I stated, perhaps we are able to circle again and go very, very deep on EMFs, as an increasing number of analysis develops from you guys.


However I do really feel like we had a tremendous start line and engaging dialog about this subject. I do know, like I stated initially, this can be a new idea for lots of people. It may be exhausting to understand. You talked about some sources, together with Dr. Hawkins’ work. I’ll hyperlink to that within the present notes as effectively, for anyone who’s not acquainted, and wish to do some actually, actually enjoyable studying. And I wish to respect your time and the viewers time immediately. However earlier than we wrap up, I’d love to listen to if there are any books which have had a very profound influence on both of your lives and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.


Clayton: Perhaps, I’ll begin, we’ve been speaking about kinesiology lots. And Dr. Hawkins’ first guide, “Energy vs. Pressure,” it’s a New York Instances bestseller. I fairly effectively canine eared my copy. The pages are falling out as a result of I’ve had it open. You already know, I opened it up and neglect to shut it. And, in fact, that impacts binding. So that will be one for me.


I may say another Hawkins. Dr. Hawkins has a guide I feel it’s known as, “Therapeutic and Restoration” or Well being and Therapeutic. I’m drawing a clean proper now. It’s a inexperienced one with the inexperienced stripe. That’s been a giant one. For any time that I’ve had a well being problem, I’ll go on to that. Properly, I’ll cross over to you, Jeff.


Jeff: I feel the latest guide that’s had a big influence on me is, “Tremendous Synchronicity” by Dr. Gary E. Schwartz. And its intensive analysis into synchronicities and the way they’re simply so past likelihood. You already know, they’re simply nearly unattainable. And what they inform us, and for me, it was that these synchronicities are pointing the best way to some both way of life or connection to another person that can fulfill some intention that I’ve that these synchronicities present up. And that it’s a method of divinity talking, you would say, or a route within the move of the universe. So I used to be actually struck by his scientific rigor that he introduced to essentially learning synchronicity. In order that was one that actually, actually bought me.


Katie: That may be a new suggestion for me. I’ll put that within the present notes. And I additionally simply added it to my Kindle. So, I’m excited to leap into that one. This was such a enjoyable dialog. Like I stated, I do know we went into some subjects that may actually be new ones for lots of people. And I do know that you simply guys have a number of analysis. If individuals are taken with studying extra or perhaps really feel like they nonetheless don’t perceive how one among this stuff we’ve talked about works, and so I’ll put some extra detailed hyperlinks to all of these. For you guys, if you happen to’re listening whilst you’re driving, otherwise you’re exercising, you would discover all these within the present notes.


Any parting phrases or recommendation for anybody? It might be associated to this or not. I don’t, if I can get my very own. However one which I’ve in relation to consciousness and our personal expression into the world I really like, and any interplay with somebody to ask the query, like how can I really like this particular person greatest on this second? However I’d love to listen to any parting recommendation that both of you will have.


Clayton: I’ll begin with that, perhaps to present you a second to assume, Jeff. I didn’t know you have been a doula. Otherwise you have been concerned in birthing different kids. So I don’t know if that’s an excellent synchronicity. However that’s a cool synchronicity. And I simply bought informed to inform that story. Generally, it’s fascinating to marvel the place our ideas come from, actually, it’s fascinating. We’ve explored that with kinesiology, you already know, after we consider there’s angelic realms, and while you ask divinity for assist, and to bless different folks, you get helped.


And I feel love begets extra love. And I do know that your intention in the direction of folks you serve, Katie, is excessive, and it’s one of many issues we form of examined after we have been speaking to you. And it’s like, “Wow, she actually cares concerning the folks she talked to.” So it was grateful to be within the firm of different individuals who have good intent. And for some motive, my inside science geek needs to simply go away folks with a potential experiment, in addition to all of the management panel and issues in FLFE. Properly, really this does relate to the management panel.


You already know, there’s an EMF…as a result of your viewers actually is taken with that, you would put your palms in your router after which have anyone flip the EMF mitigation on and off in your management panel in FLFE, and see in case your physique strikes in the direction of it or away from it, or a sensible meter. Good meters, I actually discover. I don’t discover routers as a lot, however sensible meters, it’s like, wow, the power, after I simply maintain that, it’s prefer it begins to… I really feel like I begin to shrivel. After which after I activate the EMF mitigation within the management panel, then it’s like I can simply breathe and calm down. I really feel like my posture will get higher. It’s a very sensible, you already know, do-it-yourself instance of one thing you possibly can simply attempt, you already know. It doesn’t price you something. And we like to experiment. We’re form of geeks, so I simply attempt to cross that on.


Jeff: Yeah, and speaking about fields of consciousness round us on a regular basis and these peak experiences that we’ve had in our lives, like births. There’s some timeless nature about these experiences the place, I’d say, let’s experiment by simply remembering or placing your self again in that beginning, that second, or some peak expertise. And that feeling is simply there. Like, it’s simply immediately. Like, it’s taking place proper now.


And that there’s a timelessness in these fields that we are able to then use to entry anytime that we have to increase, you already know, that we’re in a, you already know, robust state of affairs the place our frustration or on the finish of our endurance, to name in that peak second, that area to activate that area round us. And that useful resource assist ourselves to be extra useful resource in that second. So, I’d simply go away with that.


Katie: I adore it. I feel that’s an ideal place to place a pin in it for immediately. However hopefully future conversations to return. And for all of you listening, positively try the opposite analysis accessible on their web site, in addition to their 14-day free trial. Not like most issues on the web, you possibly can really simply attempt it. You don’t must enter your bank card and provides them your first baby or something loopy to attempt it. You may simply do it.


And I’m very curious to listen to from all of you listening, particularly on the EMF factor and the self-experimentation. That is, like I stated, a subject that we’re all going to take care of in our lifetimes. And I feel there’s nice methods to do it that aren’t simply residing in a cave. So I’m very grateful for you each being right here immediately and sharing your analysis, which is, I feel, a brand new fascinating realm for lots of people listening and I’m simply studying about myself, so deep gratitude, and thanks to you each.


Clayten: Thanks, Katie.


Jeff: Thanks, Katie.


Katie: And as all the time, due to all of you for listening and sharing your most dear sources, your time, your power, and your consideration with us all immediately. We’re so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”


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